Den 4.6.1667 ist des Urban Ammers größter Bub auf den Diebsthurm gefangen gesezt worden, weil er vor 5 Jahren mit einem Hund zu thun gehabt in seinem Stahl, welches der junge Nedelin samt seinem Weib gesehen. Iezo aber, weilen der Nedelin und Ammer uneins geworden, hat der Nedelin solches erst ausgesagt.
Diser Bub hat auch des Astfalken Millers Buben zugemuthet, als sie nach Pfullingen miteinander gegangen, er solle die Hosen abziehen, sie wollen etwas miteinander thun. (Hoffstetter S. 700)
[Dr.Gottfried Maier "Alte Reutlinger Familien" Band 1/2 1922/1927]
__ | _Marcus Astfalk ___|__ | (1470 - ....) _Jörg Astfalk _____| | (1500 - 1549) | | | __ | | | | |___________________|__ | _Bernhard Astfalk _| | (1530 - ....) | | | __ | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | |___________________| | | | | __ | | | | |___________________|__ | _Bernhard Astfalk _| | (1555 - ....)x1573| | | __ | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | | ___________________| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | | | |_Marie Rockenstil _| | | | | __ | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | |___________________| | | | | __ | | | | |___________________|__ | _Marcus Astfalk ____| | (1588 - ....)x1614 | | | __ | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | | ___________________| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | | | | ___________________| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | | | | | |___________________| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | | | |_Marie Ott ________| | x1573 | | | __ | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | | ___________________| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | | | |___________________| | | | | __ | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | |___________________| | | | | __ | | | | |___________________|__ | | |--Marcus Astfalk | (1616 - 1678)x1639 | __ | | | ___________________|__ | | | ___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | | ___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | | | |___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | | ___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | | | | ___________________| | | | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | | | | | |___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | | | |___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | |_Anna Strobler(in) _| x1614 | | __ | | | ___________________|__ | | | ___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | | ___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | ___________________|__ | | | | | | |___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | |___________________| | | __ | | | ___________________|__ | | | ___________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |___________________|__ | | |___________________| | | __ | | | ___________________|__ | | |___________________| | | __ | | |___________________|__
[Dr.Gottfried Maier "Alte Reutlinger Familien" Band 1/2 1922/1927]
Vater: Rudolf Jakob Camerer_Alexander Camerer _ | (.... - 1585) _Alexander Camerer _|____________________ | (.... - 1599) _Johann Rudolf Camerer _| | (1588 - 1635)x1617 | | | _Rudolf Riepp ______ | | | | |_Anna Riepp ________|____________________ | _Johann Rudolf Camerer _| | (1618 - 1675)x1640 | | | ____________________ | | | | | _David Gilg ________|____________________ | | | | |_Sara Gilg _____________| | x1617 | | | ____________________ | | | | |____________________|____________________ | _Elias Rudolf Camerer ___| | (1641 - 1695) | | | ____________________ | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | | ________________________| | | | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | | | |_Agnes Schön ___________| | x1640 | | | ____________________ | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | |________________________| | | | | ____________________ | | | | |____________________|____________________ | _Rudolf Jakob Camerer _| | (1665 - ....) | | | ____________________ | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | | ________________________| | | | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | | | | ________________________| | | | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | | | | | |________________________| | | | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | | | |_Regine Barbara Neuffer _| | | | | ____________________ | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | | ________________________| | | | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | | | |________________________| | | | | ____________________ | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | |________________________| | | | | ____________________ | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | |--Alexander Camerer | (1696 - 1786) | ____________________ | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | ________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | | ________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | | | |________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | | _________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | | | | ________________________| | | | | | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | | | | | |________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | | | |________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | |_______________________| | | ____________________ | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | ________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | | ________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | | | | |________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | |_________________________| | | ____________________ | | | ____________________|____________________ | | | ________________________| | | | | | | ____________________ | | | | | | |____________________|____________________ | | |________________________| | | ____________________ | | | ____________________|____________________ | | |________________________| | | ____________________ | | |____________________|____________________
[Reutlinger Geschichtsblätter 1921 S. 12]
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_Jakob Kemmler ________ | (1590 - ....) _Georg (Jörg) Kemmler _|_______________________ | (1620 - 1663)x1640 _Georg (Jörg) Kemmler ___| | (1654 - 1722)x1680 | | | _Martin Hoss __________ | | | (1590 - ....) | |_Anna Hoss ____________|_______________________ | (1620 - 1678)x1640 _Jörg Kemmler ______| | (1684 - 1733)x1707 | | | _Conradus Koch ________ | | | (1587 - 1636)x1607 | | _Conrad Koch __________|_Margaretha ___________ | | | (1622 - 1707)x1645 (1587 - 1624) | |_Barbara Koch ___________| | (1658 - 1722)x1680 | | | _Johannes Kemmler _____ | | | (1573 - 1620)x1605 | |_Barbara Kemmler ______|_Catharina Schaal _____ | (1618 - 1680)x1645 _Hans-Jörg Kemmler ___| | (1708 - 1774)x1739 | | | _______________________ | | | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | | | _Jörg Braun _____________| | | | (1661 - 1723)x1681 | | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | | | |_Barbara Braun _____| | (1685 - 1760)x1707 | | | _______________________ | | | | | _Sebastian Raiser _____|_______________________ | | | (1602 - 1657)x1648 | |_Barbara Raiser _________| | (1649 - 1722)x1681 | | | _Hans Lender __________ | | | (1580 - ....)x1600 | |_Anna Lender __________|_Marien Reiff _________ | (1612 - ....)x1648 (1575 - ....) _Johann Georg Kemmler _| | (1742 - 1813)x1760 | | | _______________________ | | | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | | | _Daniel Sailer __________| | | | (1655 - 1726)x1682 | | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | | | | _Johann Sailer _____| | | | (1697 - 1741) | | | | | _Jakob Kemmler ________ | | | | | (1590 - ....) | | | | _Georg (Jörg) Kemmler _|_______________________ | | | | | (1620 - 1663)x1640 | | | |_Katharina Kemmler ______| | | | (1662 - 1737)x1682 | | | | | _Martin Hoss __________ | | | | | (1590 - ....) | | | |_Anna Hoss ____________|_______________________ | | | (1620 - 1678)x1640 | |_Anna Maria Sailer ___| | (1722 - 1754)x1739 | | | _______________________ | | | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | | | _________________________| | | | | | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | | | |____________________| | | | | _______________________ | | | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | | |_________________________| | | | | _______________________ | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | |--Johann Adam Kemmler | (1774 - 1826)x1803 | _______________________ | | | _Georg Walker _________|_______________________ | | (1615 - 1678)x1646 | _Georg Walker ___________| | | (1656 - 1733)x1683 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | |_Catharina ____________|_______________________ | | (1623 - 1697)x1646 | _Jerg Walker _______| | | (1688 - 1720)x1717 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | | | | |_Catharina Birweiler ____| | | (1657 - 1717)x1683 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | | _Johann Georg Walker _| | | (1720 - 1788)x1740 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | | | | | _Georg (Jerg) Hoss ______| | | | | (1667 - 1709)x1694 | | | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | | | | | |_Anna Maria Hoss ___| | | (1697 - 1760)x1717 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | | | | |_Maria Hurr _____________| | | (1670 - 1733)x1694 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | |_Anna Maria Walker ____| (1741 - 1799)x1760 | | _______________________ | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | _________________________| | | | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | | _Johannes Braun ____| | | (1682 - 1762)x1704 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | | _______________________|_______________________ | | | | | | |_________________________| | | | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | |_______________________|_______________________ | | |_Anna Barbara Braun __| (1721 - 1756)x1740 | | _Jakob Kemmler ________ | | (1600 - 1643)x1620 | _Michael Kemmler ______|_Margaretha Witterlin _ | | (1630 - 1701) (1600 - ....) | _Georg (Jerg) Kemmler ___| | | (1654 - 1733)x1677 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | |_Anna Wittel __________|_______________________ | | (1630 - 1677) |_Catharina Kemmler _| (1683 - 1747)x1704 | | _______________________ | | | _Michael Nonnenmacher _|_______________________ | | (1610 - 1657)x1636 |_Catharina Nonnenmacher _| (1648 - 1725)x1677 | | _______________________ | | |_Maria Nagel __________|_______________________ (1610 - 1690)x1636
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